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It's about industry, it's about our whole economy.

I mean the situation when the Green Deal is questioned and challenged by the Europeans.

The big problem for industry is when you create lots of uncertainty.

In 2022 we agreed that the future for the automotive industry was electrification.

I think what we need is we need clear direction of travel and that gives the industry the certainty and the visibility that they need to make the long-term investments.

Because this is a complete change for the industry and they cannot make these investments if there is uncertainty.

I think what's interesting in the automotive industry is that there is, between the major car makers, I think there is agreement that electrification is a very big part of the future.

So even the most conservative European car makers say that 50% of cars will be electric in the future.

I think what he's doing is forcing European governments to think much harder about supply chains.

It's going to be very hard for the European automotive industry to compete globally if it doesn't have a strong base in Europe.

The longer story is that yes, you can have diversity, you can have technology, you need to be open, but you cannot tell your industry to invest in ten things at the same time.

It's an ecosystem of actions taken in the aim of building up the EU industry stronger and stronger.

That's right, because if you want immobility to succeed in Europe, you need a battery industry.

A battery industry needs cathodes.

What's pushing the transition forward and what kind of policy is needed?

This is also spurring European industry forward.

This is something the European Commission is working on.

I mean, on December 10th, the European Commission is expected to publish the so-called Corporate Fleets Proposal, which would require 60% electric vehicles by 2026 and 100% by

European Commission looked at that and said that is a great way to boost the market in Europe and to do it in a way that it doesn't put too much pressure on normal consumers.

We do it through tax changes, we make it attractive and we create a big market for the vehicles that European car producers are trying to sell.

If it were up to me, I would keep the 100% electric by 2035, but I understand politically that's maybe not possible or not desirable, but what is really important is that we don't start creating a lot of confusion in the industry, because I don't think that's in the interest of Europe or Poland or any of the countries.